Hyper-Calvinism
Recent responses to Against Calvinism
Submitted by drwayman on Fri, 05/04/2012 - 8:05amRecent responses to Against Calvinism
By Roger E. Olson, PhD
Here I post two e-mails that typify responses I’ve received from individuals about Against Calvinism.
I’m not going to comment on them, just reproduced them here. I’ll let you, my faithful readers, decide what you think and comment on them. I’ve removed anything that would identify their authors.
On Theological Certainty
Submitted by drwayman on Fri, 04/27/2012 - 11:51am“Theology is the study of God and his ways. For all we know, dung beetles may study us and our ways and call it humanology. If so, we would probably be more touched and amused than irritated. One hopes that God feels likewise.”[1]
Pretention and Certainty
“And you think your stuff doesn’t stink.” The adage may sound crass, but the problem it highlights is crass: pretention. There are few things more repulsive than pretention. The teenager who knows it all, the sports fan who has never lost an argument, the theology major who has unlocked all the mysteries of the universe. An hour locked in a room with any of the aforementioned persons is enough to make the strongest heart weak.
Roger Olson, Some thoughts about my conversation with Michael Horton
Posted on February 4, 2012 by rogereolson
Some Thoughts about My Conversation with Michael Horton
I spoke about why I am “Against Calvinism” for about 15 minutes focusing on the goodness of God and how classical, “high Calvinism” is inconsistent with any meaning of “good” and “love” known to us. Then Mike spoke for about 15 minutes focusing on humanity’s depravity and God’s mercy in electing some to salvation. In other words, he also said that God is good even if not in terms of our “fairness” (because he doesn’t save everyone).
Calvinists on Hell and the Fate of Everyone Who Ever Lives
Submitted by SEA on Tue, 10/18/2011 - 6:25amI don’t know how Calvinists do it. Like many bloggers Justin Taylor posted an obituary of Steve Jobs. Unlike many bloggers, he receives comments. Not three comments in, the post got this one: Justin Taylor posted an obituary of Steve Jobs.
- I am saddened by Jobs’ passing. My prayers are with his family and friends. I don’t mean for this to be insensitive, but why would those who believe in the concept of God’s sovereign saving grace have any “hope” one way or the other that Jobs found rest in it? Wouldn’t they just want God to carry out His salvific desires in whatever way HE sees fit?
“Does not the potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel for honor and another for dishonor?”
Eric Holmberg, "Truly Reformed . . . and Truly Wrong"
Eric Holmberg is a convinced and serious Calvinist who produced the Calvinist documentary "Amazing Grace." In this article, he corrects Calvinists who write Arminians "off as necessarily ill-informed, stupid, deceived, heretical - or worse unredeemed." Readers should be wary of Holmberg's affirmations of Calvinist theology.
An Examination of James White’s Parable: The King and the Castle
Submitted by Kevin Jackson on Thu, 05/12/2011 - 10:55amIn the book The Potters Freedom, Calvinist James White sets forth a parable called "The King and the Castle." The purpose of the parable is to explain why (in White's view) the concept of "Limited Atonement" does not impugn the character of God. White contrasts his story with one written by non-Calvinist Norm Geisler. A summary of Geisler's parable can be found here: The Farmer, the Boys, and the Pond.
Here is a paraphrase of "The King and the Castle":
The Theological Fatalist's Modal Fallacy
Submitted by bossmanham on Wed, 03/09/2011 - 2:49pmTheological fatalists posit that God's foreknowledge of future events mean that it is not possible for anything other than what happens to happen. Since God knows every event that will happen, then aren't those events necessary?
This mode of thinking works out like this:
1) Necessarily, if God foreknows x will happen, then x will happen
2) God foreknows x will happen
3) Therefore, necessarily x will happen
which would take the form:
□ P -> Q
P
___
□ Q
But this is a non sequitur. All that would actually follow from the premises displayed is Q. In terms of God's foreknowledge, all that would follow is that x will happen, not that necessarily x will happen.
Theological fatalists have tried to remedy this by positing that the second premise is also necessary. So the argument would go:
1) Necessarily, if God foreknows x will happen, then x will happen
2') Necessarily, God foreknows x will happen
3) Therefore, necessarily x will happen
Pascal's Wager Against Calvinism
Submitted by TheMessianicDrew on Thu, 12/30/2010 - 2:02pmMany of you have heard of Pascal's Wager as a motivator to believe in God, but I think it also applies to the Calvinist/Arminian debate.
Here is Pascal's Wager: Belief in God, if God exists, gives infinite gain; God does not exist, gives finite loss.
Unbelief in God, if God exists, gives infinite loss; if God does not exist, gives finite gain.
I think that this can be applied to the debate of whether human free will plays a part in salvation.
If Calvinism is true and (by implication) our witness makes no difference in other people's salvation (because salvation does not depend on human will or exertion), then our beliefs in Calvinism and Arminianism make no difference in the salvation of others. X number of people get saved if we all become Calvinists, and X number of people get saved if we all become Arminian.
When Calvinism becomes...another Gospel
Submitted by Richard Coords on Wed, 11/10/2010 - 12:33pmSome Calvinists wisely warn other Calvinists about making Calvinism into another gospel. In one particular dialogue, the following conversation took place. Unfortunately, the entirety of the dialogue has been lost since the webhost had taken down his website entirely. I had merely quoted what I felt were the most interesting segments of the discussion, and here they are:
Calvinist: “People who make election a test of fellowship, or suggest that belief in election is necessary for salvation, introduce a new kind of ‘Galatianism’ into the church-- they add to the gospel an extra requirement to simple faith, and thus people like this are even-- dare I say it-- bordering on cultic for making some teaching of the Bible in addition to the gospel an acid test for true Christian belief.”
Now this person certainly was a Calvinist, as they declared: “My transition to Calvinism was somewhat reluctant, but the inevitable result of Christian maturity....”
Philip Pugh, Arminianism v. hyper-Calvinism: 3 letters to S. Cozens [in answer to tracts by him]
Three letters reviewing the sermons of Cozens; published in 1860. (link)